In the way that we see them care for each other and their fans concerns, I really dont see how they could MEAN to hurt anyones feelings with how they might act at times. They were ignorant and uneducated at the time. I dont think people should defend what others do/say, regardless of how long ago it was, but I do think people should look at stuff in context and use a degree of common sense. They make a difference. It's really difficult to see the hate towards these girls when I see how hard they had to struggle to climb up the ladder when they came from such a small company but I do believe they'll prevail and work hard to improve themselves as they've always been doing since 2014 . Im not really sure what else to say, if anyone wants to talk to me about it, thats fine. "Hey remember dressing up in blackface with the rest of Mamamoo," read one tweet. Honestly there is nothing wrong with what they said. Its not good when people exaggerate stuff (like they did with Siwon) but its good to keep discussions going on offensive things in kpop, 3) Thank you for the fanaccounts/links about the Siwon thing (Ill add them to the list), thats the kind of thing I appreciate being told because I am not omniscient and I dont know everything (Also I think I already had one of those on there?). Others were soon reminding Hwasa once again of her past mistakes, including wearing blackface along with the rest of Mamamoo in a performance where they were parodying Bruno Mars. ", And if anybody wants to get brave about their past mistakes, heres a link with receipts and explanations. #AskHwasa. In fact, I really like them. Regardless, a fan who thinks that its not a problem isnt going to hold it against Heechul, the point of the post isnt to make you hate the idols (Heechul is literally one of my ultimate biases) its just supposed to be informative. Another chose to call out an even older incident, one in which Hwasa used the n-word while covering a Beyonc song. MEAWW is an initialism for Media Entertainment Arts WorldWide. Honestly, I would want the person that I love to be more pretty or more handsome., Culturally appropriated a Native American headdress. }); I'm gonna keep following them and follow my own judgement. },false) One user asked, "Which culture did u enjoy appropriating the most," while another quipped, "Can we have a spoiler? Of course I was disappointed in some of the things they've done and said, but we all make mistakes and they've acknowledged them and apologized. New comments cannot be posted and votes cannot be cast. 21 Feb 2023, 07:29 PM. They are not exactly multicultural societies vs. north america. But seeing these articles faze me. As for the criticism of my post in your tags, I still feel like it was appropriate to include the Kris thing, though I understand why some people dont think its offensive/problematic. The whole thing was carelessly done and not very thorough. So I decided to forgive them cause myself personally thinks that they tried to show love to Bruno Mars which is apparently one of their fav artist by doing a vcr of their songs but stupidity and very ignorantly decided to dark their skin to match his and his dancers. That obviously didnt work too well. I did watch the video when it was up but it was a while ago and I dont remember exactly what he said. Coming in at last place is the debut single of NMIXX, O.O.This song now also holds the distinction of having the lowest average in the history of KSOTY. Red Velvet too. Solar Moonbyul Wheein Hwasa Results are only viewable after voting. I can definitely understand where youre coming from and why you sounded defensive. Korean girl group Mamamoo apologized Saturday after a video clip aired at their concert that featured the quartet in blackface. I dont make these lists with the intent of ruining the idols image or spreading misinformation (which by the way, if I do again, please call me out on it because otherwise I have no other way of knowing). hitType: 'event', Im aware people hold stuff against suju quite a lot, especially in comparison to other problematic groups like BigBang and 2NE1, who I rarely see get criticised, but that doesnt counteract the fact that suju have messed up before (because theyre human beings). This is extremely disheartening, as Hwasa has spent her entire life fighting against such backwards thoughts as that. Mamamoo Has Been Receiving Hate Storms- And It's Only Getting Worse. Mamamoo are good, genuine people. Advanced Faker. It took years to unlearn what was taught to me, become more informed, and develop my own beliefs. Everyone seems to think that the world revolves around them. mamamoo has been giving neck to neck competition to redvelvet but kpop fans always considered redvelvet above them because redvelvet is a sm group but now its time to accept the truth.. Mamamoo is easily gonna out live redvelvet, mamamoo members have resigned and will continue for long meanwhile redvelvet is pretty much done after irene scandal and no news of members re-signing because they . I also included a link to it at the top of the super junior post. Solar will previal . If other fandoms are able to trend Mamamoo/Hwasa hate comments, it will distract from the messes that other fandoms are currently dealing with. I have a tendency to get a bit defensive and come across as rude/mocking/patronising/self righteous when I dont mean to, which Im trying to work on, but its hard to tell when Im doing it, so I try to avoid argument a lot. the Eunhyuk WGM thing being scripted). It's even harder these days.. anything can be taken out of context for example, they're banning "Baby It's Cold Outside" on the radio because some people feel the lyrics suggest date rape what a load of BS. I feel like this sounds insincere but its not, I promise, I wish I had gone about it very differently. The controversies surrounding Mamamoo sometimes hurt for sure, because you can tell that theyre pretty genuine in who they are without putting on too much of a show, arent out to get or hurt anyone, and are capable of realizing when they have made mistakes. #askhwasa pic.twitter.com/rqPYTIMaEL, And from there, the jokes just continued, "Biggie or Tupac?" Everyone, dont think of dirty thoughts!, negative comment about Taos skin being dark, cant be too chubby/fat and must have a nice body, He has darker skin than me, doesnt he?, in general, youre skin looks better if you have a lighter skin tone. | by unchangingtruth | Medium Write Sign up Sign In 500 Apologies, but something went wrong on our end. Contents 1 History 1.1 Pre-debut 1.2 2014: Debut with Hello, and Piano Man 1.3 2015: Pink Funky 1.4 2016: Melting, MOOSICAL and Memory 1.5 2017: MOOSICAL Curtain Call and Purple Thank you very much for the information!! I have no reason not to trust the 2 Korean-speaking people whove come forward and told me it isnt a mistranslation? I didnt mean for this to spiral into an argument at all and I didnt post the post with malicious intent, though I know the intent doesnt matter all that much and that I did make mistakes. Its quite a big responsibility looking after this blog and Im not sure my wellbeing can take that on top of my workload and personal problems. Meanwhile for girl groups it's just full of hate comments even if they did not do as many or as severe problematic things as boy groups. The group officially debuted with their single "Mr. Ambiguous" on June 18, 2014. Heres the thing- you can not forgive them. I encourage everybody to keep general discussion going, but for now, Im stepping out. For hours the terms hwasa n-word, hwasa racist, hwasa ugly, hwasa dead, were the most common twitter terms in Hwasas searches, while Moos rushed around trying to tweet positive things and trend protective hashtags in response. hitType: 'event', One user shared, "HELP THE QUESTIONS FOR #AskHwasa I CANT," along with a screenshot of some of their favorites, another said, "THE TWEETS UNDER THIS HASHTAG ARE RUTHLESS AHAJAKXH," and one joked, "The gates of heaven are not opening for ANY of yall. }) } Feels bad yo. I dont properly feel as though I can talk about in depth because I have limited knowledge (which I probably should have specified in the post) but I didnt just pull it out of my ass, I included it because Id seen people get offended by it (though predominantly by Gain). ; _____; aaaa. The MAMAMOO Introduction Guide of 2022 (Part 1: Members) MOO YT 40K views 7 months ago Is Duolingo Really a Good Way to Study Japanese? With the Henry thing, I also understand where youre coming from. Now you may be wondering, this dating news had absolutely nothing to do with Mamamoo, why were Moos suddenly preparing for a new war against Hwasa hate comments? If we reflect on our own selves, Im sure a lot of us have done some similar things that could be classified as questionable if we were always in the spotlight as idols too. There are multiple reasons but a large one being Im just not educated enough. Some things aren't even their fault, but ofc they're going to frame it that way (like Wheein saying that she feels like a normal person for making silly faces and people bashing her saying that she's thinking too highly of herself as a celebrity? Im aware hes from Canada, Im aware people are less touchy-feely in the west, but the fact that the thought of his band members being gay or transworried him is definitely problematic. #AskHwasa pic.twitter.com/h0oPUHVyku, Some, naturally, came to Hwasa's defense, pointing out that her, the rest of Mamamoo, as well as their label Rainbowbridge World (RBW), have all apologized or at the very least provided an explanation for their actions in the past. Yes, I should have checked the links. The point is to provide information about things which could be perceived as offensive so that fans can decide for themselves whether or not they feel comfortable continuing to support the idols. A lot of it is about perspective, and privilege, but also some people have lower tolerance levels than other people. They expect idols to be the wokest people out there because theyre celebrities when in reality theyre just the product of their colorist society. While MBC later clarified that the outfit was meant to be a glamorized version of the sauna outfits worn by South Koreans, particularly a style that Hwasa herself has worn before, many thought the outfit was far more similar to an African one than a Korean sauna look. Mamamoo isn't even the first K-Pop group or artist to don blackface in 2012, Big Bang's G-Dragon (who have been called the "biggest band in Asia") posted a horrific photo that many believed was. It arguably began around late 2018 Windflower era, when antis began to change Mamamoo's music video titles to racial slurs and death threats. I forgot how toxic Kpop fans can be Like you all know, Mamamoo has a pretty small fan base (internationally) compared to some other idol groups. 4) I included the hijab thing for Heechul because I saw muslim fans point it out and say that it made them uncomfortable. Im not trying to run away from anything, if you have issues with any of the things I say or do (because I am privileged in certain aspects) please dont feel afraid to bring them up! I dont think they take care of their bodies well, Performed with Boom, while he was donning blackface, Called N from VIXX fucking trash among many other things, sneaked into a room in which girls were sleeping and touched them, I do not wish to acknowledge homosexuals, that scenario must have looked like a drug deal., Implied negative things about Goo Hara dating around a lot, If someone had to lose weight, I would tell that person to lose weight. So many public figures coming out and vouching for Mamamoos talent and success only continues to prove their worth and value to the world. You need to Register or Login to view the content. A subreddit for the four member kpop group, MAMAMOO! They received their first music show win in 2016 with Youre The Best and have since gone on to win dozens more, ending 2019 with a combined total of 41 music show wins, making them one of the most highest winning girl groups in history. Their interactions with their fans and staff members are so sweet and genuine, and they do their best to be inclusive of everyone (like Wheein taking her time to speak to a deaf fan and doing some sign language, Hwasa going on the floor to sign a fan's cast---the list goes on). It's harder to get exposed to these issues that we know about under their circumstances, but once Mamamoo comes across them and understand, they'll learn from it. So those are the most controversial things talked about that Mamamoo has done. I only made the post because Ive personally received asks about whether or not there is a Super Junior master post and whether specific members have done anything, and thought itd be easy to compile a list, seeing as thats sorta what this blog is for. They are known and respected by the general public, for their powerful vocals and performances, and can only go up in relevance from here. It was laughable because a writer had a compilation of problematic things that idol groups did and you can very clearly see the double-standards people have for boy groups and girl groups (even the writer herself). They debuted on June 19, 2014 with the mini album Hello . Its much appreciated :-), Im KOREAN TOO, and shes lying, i will post a video with the REAL ONE and gonna call you out too.-. Hope that all made sense! lesbians ranked Irene and Seulgi as #1 and #2 female idols. Its kinda iffy, and as a trans & queer person it definitely rubs me the wrong way :-//. 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