This was apparently the reason why the FBI got involved straight away. Investigators have stated that they have compared notes on the Delphi and Evansdale cases and, while there are similarities, they do not believe the cases are related. This postexamines the strange similarities in the cases of 4 murdered girls. This didn't have to have happen. "The girls should have not been on that bridge," LH said. Was wearing a hat (most likely a camouflage hunting cap with ear flaps or pageboy cap), hooded sweatshirt, scarf, and blue jeans on the day of the Delphi murders. May make regular stops for work nearby or have been in the area for a few days prior with time to scout out the surrounding area. I don't know but the more time goes by, the angrier I get. The sister of Liberty "Libby" German, one of the two teen girls found dead in Delphi, Indiana, in 2017, took to YouTube Tuesday to debunk conspiracies surrounding the unsolved killings. "On Oct. 9, 2021, Deputy Juan Ruiz was simply doing his job and he paid the ultimate price trying to keep our community safe. ", "Pat had no enemies; he was too well-liked," Lukezic said. Ive seen a reference to Libby having a letter "K" carved onto her chest. Juan "Johnny" Ruiz, who was with MCSO for three years, died on Oct. 11. I thought that he knew more than he was letting on and while he might not be the killer, he knew who was and that person had access to his property. If you have any information on the Delphi murders, contact law enforcement at1-800-225-5324 orAbbyandlibbytip@cacoshrf.com. Atsome point, he lived in Ohio, before moving to Phoenix in the 1950s, according to details provided in 1981byhis obituary andby his friend and business partner, Ron Lukezic. Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts. By 5pm, the girls' families were out searching for them and by 6pm most the town, which has a population of about 3000, had joined police, but the girls were not found. Libby German and Abby Williams were murdered in Delphi, Indiana on Feb. 13, 2017. Photos of a suspect in the case were later released by authorities as well as a brief audio clip of him stating down the hill. Although authorities have never confirmed, it, most in the public eye assume the photos and audio came from Libbys phone when she discreetly videotaped him. Their hands were bound with adhesive tape and their mouthsstuffed with socks from a nearby dresser. He was granted a retrial two years later, which ended with a hung jury. Your name has a striking similarity to the Youtube channel, FGTeeVee. Everywhere you look in Delphi, there are reminders of Abby and Libby. Also living there were Cynthia Stoltzmann's daughter, Sammantha, and her son-in-law, John Allen, both 23, and twelve or more children. Floyd and Verna Kelly, the first to arrive for the party,found the slain family and called for help. Reddit and its partners use cookies and similar technologies to provide you with a better experience. His Lawyers Say He Has "Nothing To Hide." An unsealed affidavit revealed new details about the 2017 killings of Libby German and Abby Williams including that the suspect told police five years ago he'd been near the crime scene. The rumor about the girls wearing scarves at their funeral seems to check out. "We have a lot of clay here in Indiana so it's like standing on churned butter. The Evansdale, Iowa murders are eerily similar. As part of the investigation, in December of 2021, the Indiana State Police asked the public for any information in connection to the profile. "There is moss growing on some spots where the ties are spongy, likely contributing to the decay. However, the cops have found nothing. May have a history of petty arrests and convictions such as for possession of paraphernalia or shoplifting. The case remains unsolved more than five years . I'm hoping they found their guy or that maybe he knows more than he let on. Had scratches on his body and, possibly, other injuries, around Valentines Day, February 14, 2017. His family made a selfless act to donate his organs, so many others can live on and represent his legacy.". William Redmond, who went by "Pat" to those closest to him,was born in Huntington, West Virginia. The girls may have been sexually-assaulted, perhaps with an object. The accusations of luring a child to a private location to commit a brutal crime begged the question of whether Carroll County officials were investigating . That part was a matter of being at the wrong place at the wrong time, I think. Sammantha and John Allen were convicted in 2017 of first degree murder and sentenced to death by lethal . "Another brother falls but we're all here to show support and pick him up and hopefully everybody can see this," Rogers said. Lyric Cook,10: Friday, July 13, 2012; Evansdale, Iowa (found deceased), Elizabeth Collins,8:Friday, July 13, 2012; Evansdale, Iowa (found deceased), Liberty Libby German,14: Monday, February 13, 2017; Delphi, Indiana (found deceased), Abigail Abby Williams,13:Monday, February 13, 2017; Delphi, Indiana (found deceased). Deputies were unable to locate the suspect, identified as Clinton Robert Hurley. Delphi murders: A man has been arrested and charged in the 2017 killings of 2 teen girls in Indiana, authorities say | CNN A man has been arrested and charged with murder in the 2017 killings. "I don't know if that's just me or what but that bridge and walking up to that bridge around the curve feel evil.". The rumor about the girls wearing scarves at their funeral seems to check out. Knows how to navigate rough or unchartered terrain. AVONDALE, Ariz. - A Maricopa County Sheriff's deputy was laid to rest in October 2021, after he suffered a deadly attack while taking a suspect with felony warrants into custody. "Yesterday was worse than today, but I kept off social media and stayed to myself and stayed quiet," said Williams. (Photo by Robert Alexander/Getty Images), fake social media account, "anthony_shots,", Everyone Practices Cancel Culture | Opinion, Deplatforming Free Speech is Dangerous | Opinion. I don't blame the police though. The bodies were all found in areas a hunter might frequent. This was apparently the reason why the FBI got involved straight away. I do like the theory that he is/was a truck driver. It's been a tragic week for law enforcement in our state. "During a time when men and women in law enforcement face scrutiny, sometimes demonization, or expected to be perfect and underappreciated but a scumbag piece of (expletive) out of the Department of Corrections can put him on life support when he comes to work every day in uniform to keep this community safe," Penzone said on a news conference on Oct. 9. Identified the place he would hide likely from a nearby elevated position such as a deer lookout to watch and observe potential victim/s and where he would take them to torture/kill them. and our Newly released interview transcripts of police and one man reveal more details about the investigation into the death of two Indiana teenage girls. May be a transient or trucker who passes from one meat-packing (or similar) plant to another throughout the US. You just dont stumble across this type of landmark. Joyce Lukezic was also convicted in 1981 for her role in the murdersbut was granted a retrial that ended with a hung jury. Unfortunately for them, modern technology might be what breaks this case open and leads us to this sick person or persons. Maybe this guy knew those girls were going to be there, maybe he overheard them speaking or maybe he knew their mother and their mother told him that they were going to be there Anything is possible these days. Ive been sifting through so many news reports, facebook groups, true crime forums and truthtellers. Look at the map of the area and youll see that Ron Logans property is in a perfect spot to pull something like this off. A short time after, deputies later found Hurley and took him into custody. First of all look at him in his orange jumpsuit in the local court. Gaining control of them with a knife or gun, he forced them to turn northward and down the hill. Friends Libby German, 14, and Abby Williams, 13, left school early and were dropped off around 1:45pm by a relative to go hiking on trails near the Moon High Bridge in Delphi, Indiana. The investigation is continuing and no one has been charged. Day 2: No contact, phones off (would have charged w friends to stay on SM), no one's seen them, all friends and friends moms and dads have replied no - we haven't seen them, early reports of a suspicious person walking on trails with a report made immediately to law enforcement the day before, before girls even disappeared indicating some guy walked quickly through trails and didn't . Perhaps these exact work boots were not worn during the murders but they may closely resemble the footwear the killer was wearing. [7], Police claimed that the other children instigated situations to get Ame in trouble. IMO, I think that they must have some form of DNA because although they have yet to ID bridge guy they still seem suprisingly confident in their chances of finding him. (Would have to be local and have access to someones property by the bridge). MCSO Sheriff Paul Penzone joins AZAM to speak on these tragic incidents. "I live in the community nearby, and wanted to make sure I show my support and respect," said Chris Beckett, who lives in Avondale. Unnamed neighbors toldThe Republic the Redmonds wererecluses, saying they kept to themselves in theyear they lived in the area. I cannot believe that the suspect has yet to be identified. "That isn't a guy, that's a barricade that has been removed and now is standing along the woods.". Deputy Ruiz was laid to rest at Holy Cross Catholic Cemetery in Avondale, following a funeral procession, Along the route, residents who did not otherwise know Deputy Ruiz lined up to pay their respects. DTH said the killer likely grew up walking those woods, or spends a lot of time outdoors and had come to see the bridge as the perfect trap. I believe the police arrested RL and threw him in jail so they could search all of the buildings on his property. They walked through the wood and across the creek until they reached the spot where they were found and likely murdered there. There is a more than $175,000 reward offered in the Evansdale case and more than $230,000 available in reward money for the Delphi case. "Seeking the death penalty is the most serious decision entrusted to the County Attorney," said interim County Attorney Rachel Mitchell. However, there are new developments with the owner of the property where the girls were found. Before Ame was squeezed into the trunk, she was forced to do jumping jacks and backbends and to run around in 103-degree heat for over an hour. But at least one close friend to the couple portrayed them as sociable,saying they'd meet five or six times a week for drinks. None of the charges are in connection to the unsolved death of Williams and German. Is familiar with the local area even though he has not planted long-term roots there. She at one pointduringMcCall's trialleft the witness stand to point a finger at him from the center of the courtroom. It is absolutely horrible what happened to these girls. The murdered girls, who attended Delphi Community Middle School where they played saxophone and volleyball together, had visited the bridge before the day they died. Part, or all, of the killings may have been captured on video. Witnessesidentified the hired gunmen as McCall, William Bracy and Murray Hooper, both of Chicago. May also kill single women or girls. The news outlets also speculated about a tattoo on Chadwell. I think the killer has absolutely nothing to do with RL and with Delphi. Flags at all state buildings will be lowered to half-staff on Oct.12 to honor Ruiz. He succumbed to the injuries sustained on Saturday at the hands of a violent predator. Now that so much time has passed I don't know what to believe anymore. Second the FBI has expert voice recognition capacities and certainly Mr Logan has spoken in interviews and they could certainly identify that this was his voice on Libbey 's phone. Police also believe that at least two people were using the accounts, as they pointed out the login and logout times and the difference in wording. Deal had been the victim of long-term abuse by her family members before being locked inside a footlocker, where she subsequently died from suffocation. This is a list of notable male murderers who committed their murders in Arizona, USA. The girls bodies may have been dragged, there may have been drag marks near where they were found. Finally as a felony DUI offender his DNA would have been readily available to law enforcement. At 2.09pm, Libby, used her mobile phone to upload a picture of Abby walking on the iconic bridge to Snapchat. "It could very well be somewhere along the lines someone was even threatened not to reveal the identity of the killer.". The fact that they are holding the landowner seemed promising to me when first reported. Our community offers an alternative to subs that don't allow videos or podcast links as post submissions to kick off discussion. LH, who has visited the location multiple times, describes in detail the spot where the schoolgirls were abducted on February 13, 2017. Then, after he spotted them, imo, this is when he springs into action. But the Redmonds opted to stay home that night because Marilyn'smother, Helen Phelps, was visiting, Kelly said. Unsubstantiated Rumors in the Delphi Case. This is the location of the final death march by Abby Williams, 13, and Liberty German, 14, after they recorded their murderer's chilling command to go "down the hill". Their bodies were found some 5 months later in neighboring Bremer County in a desolate wooded area known as the Seven Bridges Wildlife Area. On Feb. 15, 2017, police released cellphone images from German's phone showing a suspect in the case coming across the bridge towards the girls. I don't think he is the BG in pictures though. I can only imagine what the girls felt and they had that killer there.". Several days after the murders, and around the time of the Indiana Packers plant raid, LE released these photos of boots seized as evidence. The girls were dropped off near the Monon High Bridge, just east of Delphi, about 1 p.m. on Feb. 13, 2017. Also, during the interview with investigators, WISH-TV reported, Kline said he used the account to obtain photos and videos of a sexual nature featuring underage girls. Deputy Ruiz's impact is felt in so many ways, including those who continue to wait for a life-saving organ. Then again, he was also convinced that there was a pic of BG in that pic of Abby on the bridge. WISH-TV also pointed out that detectives mentioned that Kline's phone search history included several about the Delphi case. The home andneighborhood were described by the newspaper as "fashionable" in separate reports. Last week the children of Delphi started school. Shirley and David were living together until Shirley and her children went to stay with her mother in Donora, Pennsylvania. Was over-dressed for the weather, likely to conceal DNA. She has bone chips in a precarious place in her head," Phoenix police DetectiveGeorgeKlettlinger told the Associated Pressat the time. It is the Monon High Bridge, a hiking trail near the tiny Indiana town of Delphi, 100km northwest of Indianapolis. [4], David Deal, Ame's possible father, was reported living in the back of the family rental home in a tent with his two other children. Create a free website or blog at WordPress.com. Libby German recorded the killer's order after she placed her phone with its video camera rolling in her pocket as he cornered them on the bridge. Cause of death for Libby and Abby has not been publicly released but two photos, a sketch of a possible suspect, and a brief audio clip of his voice have been released. She spent Sunday marking the six-month anniversary of the girls' disappearance by visiting all of Abby's favorite fishing spots. "So now the question is, what is this community willing to do to make sure that this suspect goes back to prison or somewhere else for the actions against this deputy?" Or maybe he checks out RLs property and watches him leave. "Notably, theNewYorkPost has falsely stated within a photo caption that Chadwell had been arrested for the murder of Liberty.". [5] Of all the children living in the home, Ame was the only one abused. "Support for different agencies and how dangerous this job is, we have to have each other's backs," said Avondale Police Officer Derek Rogers. She attended most, if not, all, of the trials related to her husband and mother's murders but often dodged or declined to speak to reporters, reports indicated. It has also been mentioned that Daniel Nations girlfriend's first name starts with "K", (although I cant conceivably understand why the alleged killer would brand the victim with a reference to their own girlfriend. Picks a spot to change into his BG attire with his kill kit. He is a white male with his hands in his pockets while walking. Ame was also forced to sleep in the shower stall without bedding because she had wet her bed. By clicking Sign Up, I confirmthat I have read and agreeto the Privacy Policy and Terms of Service. Eerie photographs show the hill two young teens were ordered to walk down by their killer before he murdered them in rural Indiana. | The Theorem Factory, Is Thomas Bruce the Delphi Bridge Guy? On April 19, 42-year-oldChadwell allegedly lured a 9-year-old neighborhood girl into his house at 714 Park Ave. in Lafayette, where prosecutors say he beat her, locked her in the basement andsexually assaulted her before police looking for the girl knocked on his door. "I knew that something had happened," she said in court months later. When the family lived in Wisconsin, the local child protective services were called because of the "disgusting conditions" of their residence. I live very close to Delphi, and I want this guy off the streets. By accepting all cookies, you agree to our use of cookies to deliver and maintain our services and site, improve the quality of Reddit, personalize Reddit content and advertising, and measure the effectiveness of advertising. was planning on murdering a vulnerable person on the day he killed but had not pre-selected his victim/s. We shall see if he is released or not. Libby fought viciously with her attacker, to the point that her fingernails were shredded, Libby captured images and voice recording, possibly from video, of the girls attacker on her phone, Libbys phone may have been disposed of by the murderer in a body of water but the images and video of him were retrieved from the cloud. May have explained this as having gone hiking or hunting. Trails: Libby & Abby and Lyric & Elizabeth all disappeared while on a trail in the afternoon. James Chadwell and the Delphi murders. The following is based on various news reports at the time, mostly from The Arizona Republic: Few details are known about the Redmonds and their family, aside from the crime itself. (WTHR) - State police say more audio from Libby German's cell phone was played for the victims' families, including a mention of a man they noticed behind them. This is one opinion I have not waivered from. FULL STORY HERE: https:/. According to Shirley, she was seeing another man during the time she conceived, therefore it is not known for sure if David Deal is the father of Ame. We have our local rumors too. I also think the part that baffles me the most was that it was such a bold crime. While living in Phoenix, Ame and the other children were supposedly being home-schooled. I check almost daily to see if there have been any updates to this case. Ron Lukezic's wife at the time, Joyce Lukezic, was also accused of being involved in the planning. My initial guess was that the man in the picture is either a transient or truck driversomething that allowed him to get out of the area quickly. Chadwell continues to beinvestigated to determine if he's connected to the Delphi killings,Leazenby confirmed Monday,adding that so are other possible suspects. It has been my opinion from the onslaught, that these were not his first killings. The Journal & Courier has not reported on these speculations. The family first told the police officers that Ame was playing hide-n-seek and locked herself in the trunk the night before, after the adults went to sleep. "The hill was still pretty steep and my shoes were sliding down in the mud. I know the general crime scene is relatively secluded, but it was broad daylight and there was not one victim, but 2. John and Sammantha Allen were charged with first degree murder, conspiracy to commit child abuse and many counts of child abuse. He also hadfive grandchildren, three sisters and two brothers. Reach Ron Wilkins at rwilkins@jconline.com. It is totally impossible to stand in that area, so we know that's not right. [1], The family had often moved and had lived in Pennsylvania, Utah, Texas and Tucson, Arizona, among other places. But a transcript of a conversation between police and a man named Kegan Kline gives more information as officers continue looking into the girls' disappearance and death, WISH-TV reported. Shortly after the Delphi murders, Indiana State Police raided a nearby meat-packing plant due to a bomb threat, which may or may not have been the actual reason for the raid. Cookie Notice "At the same time, it's an average of 10 minutes that someone new is added to the same list so it certainly isn't an uphill battle to offer hope to the 16,000 people right now, who are on the waiting list.". "Unless someone absolutely somehow studied that [trail] in great depth, they would not know specifically where certain things were," Leazenby said. He may have a limp or a gait. The girls were disposed of in a body of water. "Evil did not defeat Deputy Ruiz that day, and evil will not defeat us today," said Sheriff Penzone. "My heart's still breaking," said Anna Williams, Abby's mom, who prays it won't be much longer. That said, I did find it interesting to review the rumors that were being discussed shortly after the murders. McCall and Bracy have since died in prison. McCall and Bracy have since died in prison. Richard Allen, 50, After anyone visiting the bridge crosses the creek, the rest of the bridge is obscured on all sides by woodland, creating privacy for anyone committing a crime. "His loss is a tragedy for our profession and our community. [15][16][17], Last edited on 26 February 2023, at 23:55, List of women on death row in the United States, "Phoenix girl's death in footlocker horrifies mom", "Details emerge of a life of horror for Phoenix girl who died", "Phoenix police: 4 people arrested in child's death", "Ame Deal's Father Trying to Bail Monsters Who Murdered His Daughter Out of Jail", "School officials in Utah reported abuse of Ame Deal", "Phoenix Police: Abuse of Ame Deal "Makes You Sick to Your Stomach. He may get out of work around this time or does not work a job where he would be missed during the early afternoon hours. There would have been lynch mobs for this kind of crime 100 years ago. After he is done, he goes back to his backpack, changes and returns to his car at the cps bldg. I am a bit suspicious of RL, but I don't think he did it. "Down where you see him on that photo [the image captured by Libby German on her phone] is especially mushy and I was scared there. The papers showed that Kline had communicated with German using the account. Carried a deer kit fanny-pack, which may have contained weapons or tools to torture or kill the girls, Has a hunting background or hunts for sport. Six months later, though, a painful anniversary has arrived with still no answers. Both cases involved young females between the ages of 8-14. Press J to jump to the feed. The only audio that has been released to the public from the phone is that of a man's voice ordering German and her friend, Abby Williams, "down the hill.". "One thing we know about that killer it's pretty obvious that the guy wasn't scared of heights. Given the rumors circulating in regards to these crimes; rape, throat slitting, etc., these crimes were not committed quickly. I hope they figure it out soon. They may have told him all kinds of lies about finding this or that, trying to get him to admit to something.Police do what they have to in order to get a confession. Example video title will go here for this video. "When you are walking down the trail and approaching the bridge, the trail makes a turn and you can slowly see it 'approaching' you," LH said. Please keep Deputy Ruiz's family in your prayers.". Experiences extreme feelings of entitlement and is prone to rage and outbursts. (WTHR) - State police say more audio from Libby German's cell phone was played for the victims' families, including a mention of a man they noticed behind them. "Every time I go there it gets worse and worse, she said, "You can grab onto pieces of wood and pull it right off the ties. [7] Sammantha and John Allen's bail bonds were both set at $1 million. The jury was again deadlocked in Cruz'sthird trial but he was found guilty in 1988 after a fourth. There is a new push for information four years after police found teenagers Libby German and Abby Williams dead, in Delphi, Indiana. Marilyn Redmond was taken to Good Samaritan Hospital in Phoenix, where she stayed for about 13days under police guard, according to The Republic. It was an unseasonably warm day and the best friends were dropped off at 1.35pm for their walk, which started at a location which, LH told news.com.au, has since been fenced off with bent red metal gate. Note how this detail is similar in the photos of the Bridge Guy.

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