The bodies of Abby Williams, 13, and her best friend Libby German, 14, were discovered near a river a short distance away from the Monon High Bridge Trail in Delphi, on February 14, 2017. One day, months later, the father took his young son out hunting on some land that bordered the land of the boyfriends, the son was looking through the scope of the rifle and noticed something across from them, the father went to look through the scope and was shot and killed. A composite sketch one of just a couple pictures of the Delphi Murders suspect. The fat pedo is wearing an Auto Workers Union t-shirt. At the time, crews thought the girls had simply gotten lost on the trails and were unable to find their way back. but youd think it was the Boulder police. They withheld too much info and ended up with thousands of fruitless leads. R209 Leigh Kerr was supposed to come back and answer the highest voted questions that he hadnt gotten to last night. but i think this guy is the guy. I don't think it's out of the realm of possibility that they were the same car and someone changed the plates during the day. Very interesting. Surely the sheriffs behavior at the briefing alone raised concern. My guess, BG acted alone and used a knife. R14 During one of the press conferences a couple of years ago, the police stated that they had someone in mind and they were probably watching the press conference at that moment, they went onto say that the culprit would slip up and they had almost certainly told someone something about the murders and that person would come forward eventually. Also, this trail has spotty cell tower reception. The man in the video doesn't need to be from the area. R194 Ill admit, Ive never been so intrigued by true crime, but this one really got under my skin. We know that this is about power to you, and you want to know what we know that one day, you will.. When you see the video, watch the persons mannerisms as they walk, Carter said when they released it. If a suspect shows they have this kind of info, it can also be used against them in a trial. It came out later he didnt and it was just a young teens mind trying to process survivors guilt and incredible trauma. It's a strange case. "Catching this guy is my main goal in life right now. I just hope LE has enough evidence against him for a conviction. That tattoo made my blood freeze. He actually does look like a blend of both. Some people are suspecting his creepy dad and the pressure on him is to turn his dad in. Some features on this site require a subscription. It's creepy but it's not of one of the victims, R301, it's weird how so many crimes have these things that seem so incriminating, but aren't at all. Why are people so literal-minded? But that is the way he leaves them, I think. Recent court documents filed refer to providing defense counsel for Keegan Kline an interview between his client and Barbara MCDonald, who is producer/narrator of the Down the Hill podcast series on Delphi, as well as a recorded interview between him and police. If I were to tell you the person I was sitting next to on the bus on the way here, I would probably tell you their nose was small and their eyes were blue. He went out the door and that was it. Also I would never have pegged that guy for an cop. Not even close. I have no idea what we are thinking. That wasnt the first time hes been on that high bridge, my opinion, again thats my opinion. Apparently an agent was home visiting family there when it happened and brought the FBI in. I thought she was too, OP, but in that image she is in a sitting position against a tree. I wonder if the killer was law enforcement? Libby German and Abby Williams were murdered in Delphi, Indiana on Feb. 13, 2017. He has corresponded with him, but has yet been unable to visit. Why were they killed if not for sex? One thing I believe is that he targeted only one of the girls. Crews widened the scope of their search as soon as the sun came up, wandering further from the abandoned railroad tracks and into wooded areas below the bridge and along Deer Creek. I hope this is the guy so there can be closure. "'Everybody sees a person differently. Some people think he owed a drug debt, and Libby was killed as a message to him. Delphi Lawrences search trend from the last 12 months (The below graph report is directly fetched from the Google Trends): We strive for accuracy and fairness. Take with a grain of salt but he said that the younger girl, Abby, was killed quickly but the older girl, Libby, had fought and had much more trauma. The texts from the guy who found the girls say they were not posed. It just seems odd for a serial killer to strike in the remote area hoping a couple of teenage girls stroll by. That is why I think one girl was killed quickly, just to get her out of the way of his true target. It's too long to post them here. It really is a creepy coincidence, though. Brrrr. If she were being strangled, she would have tried to pull the fishing line or rope away from her neck. Somebody out there knows who this person is. I wonder if investigators could have worked out approximate height from the video, since that would have been a good tip to look out for. His family did not speak of the circumstances surrounding Delphis murder, and signs of her had been removed from the familys home on Chestnut Street. Initially trained as a concert pianist. Run a report showing which phone #'s were pinging in a specific area at a specific time and solved a bunch of cases like this. The video image of course turned black but it kept recording audio of their murders, which were evidently horrorific. The girls were about 14? Wish they had a chance to push the fucker off the bridge. First, the family began to search. The man on the bridge could have one of those builds that some fat men do - the fat is all above the waist, they have weird barrel chests and big bellies and chubby faces but skinny arms and legs. Lawrence, speaking to the Daily Local News recently about the case involving his sister and Garnett, said that Delphi had become literally a ghost, for him remembered, but only as a spectral presence. She was nominated for a 1974 Joseph Jefferson Award for Best Actress in a Principal Role for her performance in "Separate Tables", at the Ivanhoe Theatre in Chicago, Illinois. I've never believed the catfish theory. Hopefully, it's him to give the family closure and he don't kill other girls. There is a text exchange between 2 people. Detectives are hoping the audio will help them match the man's voice to a suspect once one has been identified. He could have printed it out, traced it on his arm, and inked the crummy tattoo himself or had a buddy do it in 2016. It's not him. Q. I really hope that this is the killer so he will be caught and punished. To this day, he says between 6-8 people work on Libby and Abbys case each day throughout the week. This page was last edited on 29 January 2023, at 23:38, "TheConstantWifeIBDB:TheofficialsourceforBroadwayInformation". We will update Delphi Lawrence's Height, weight, Body Measurements, Eye Color, Hair Color, Shoe & Dress size soon as possible. Browsing Reddit and found this mugshot of the suspect from a year before the murders and he looks a lot like one sketch of the murderer. His son, currently in custody, seems to be the alibi. There's video of Chadwell in 2016 with the tattoo already on his arm, r388. I hope that it is solved, and BG is punished. One thing that has always stayed with me (either by reading Libby's grandmother's account of it or hearing Libby say it on a social media video) is that Libby was upset that her phone had to be reset to the factory settings and she lost photos stored in her phone. The So far, no additional information has been released and Indiana State Police have still not identified the vehicle or a possible person who may have been driving it. His father, Defields Lawrence, had died in 2001. Where did this new lead go?? These pictures from the Delphi murders featured the bridge and the surrounding countryside. And it was in no way someone going rogue. This was a deliberate move by those handling the case to draw someone out. It bothered me that another child would have to be hurt, possibly killed to solve this crime. i'd like it to be him. Take your conspiracies back to reddit. Would you like Wikipedia to always look as professional and up-to-date? In Part II, the sheriff stated he had been reported as a suspect at least 3 times and had been questioned. (Midday/midweek). "Directly to the killer, who may be in this room: We believe youre hiding in plain sight," Carter said. R18 I have heard that there is 7 minutes and also 40 minutes. If they did they wouldn't be in business long. I WONDER why we could think this guy might possibly have been involved. I think he was probably there and/or watching, simply because he thought we were on the wrong path," Carter said when the second sketch was released. for your pointless bitchery needs. Then you've got to go an search for the story. The bodies of Libby and Abby were found on the back end of a private piece of property less than a mile from where they were dropped off the day before. Of course I may be wrong, but she comes off as shady to me. Clearly this case is cold. A woman took photos and gave them to LE. What happened on that unusually warm February day remains a mystery to this day to everyone but Liberty German, Abigail Williams and the man who murdered them. WebJust to remind you guys, that the 'cause of death' is not the same as the 'mode of death'. He also has items strapped to his shins that are sort of boxy. I hope this revives momentum in the investigation and finally leads to an arrest. Few updates have also been shared by police in the more than four years since. But then, if he was, was that track common knowledge, or do you think he saw the girls earlier and followed them down? They are focused on the wrong guy. In the text, the man said that Abby was clothed and sitting up against a tree. I thought that there was no sexual assault? All we have is what little knowledge we have learned from previous serial killers. Just seeing how close he was at this point in video and how the girls knew he was trouble, the thoughts going through their head at that time really fucking awful. I can see why the people who saw home that day put his age all over the place. site without all this bureaucratic nonsense, The voice is that of a man at least 50 yrs old. Learn How rich is She in this year and how She spends money? What was the other one? Previously, police could only collect samples from those suspects who were convicted of a felony in the state. I think I would have nightmares for the rest of my life. R4777 Anyone who was a Snapchat friend could have seen Libby's feed that showed her photo of Abby on the bridge or other photos that Libby took at the trails. R414, you dont think that the police are keeping the family informed? In February 2017, they were about halfway through the eighth grade and had a day off from school in their small town of Delphi, Indiana. ", Anyone with information about this case is encouraged to send tips to this email address: abbyandlibbytip@cacoshrf.com. Let's seeon one hand, this guy was found with a 9 year old girl chained up in his basement, having been kidnapped, sexually molested and beaten. Ted Bundy even applied make-up and nail polish to the bodies, and also had sex with the bodies. The cops have nothing to go on and they're desperate for a suspect. My old and new rabbit holes were on the Beeks, Pat and Angel Br@wn and their little pickup, then Micah H, then pastor JDW. A cop? R339 it's on facebook. He decapitated one of his victims and posed get body so that it seemed as if she was looking at her body lying on the bed. That tattoo looks so much like her because all of his victims do. I suspect he was there on a few occasions looking for the right moment and a victim. Bluestine, of the Innocence Project, said that cases in which the strongest, or only, piece of evidence is a defendants confession are many times the ones that are later shown to be wrongful prosecutions. The guy was a stranger to them. The charges stem from a search of his Peru, Indiana home on February 25, 2017 - just 11 days after the bodies of Liberty and Abby were found. On the show, did they say the sheriff was a suspect? And the sister isn't part of the official investigation. The photos at the link found in R93's thread aren't useful at all, but the info about the two white Dodge Darts is pretty interesting. The Delphi killings remain a uniquely disturbing case that refuses to leave the publics consciousness. . Here was an app that allowed me to do that without having to go visit locations, he told the Indy Star. r288 that's chilling. He said he remains hopeful there will soon come a break and justice for Abby and Libby. Or, more likely, it was the cause of death that got them involved. In any case like that, there is always reason to have doubt, she said in an interview last week. The FB mods made screen grabs because they thought the guy was shady and they are sending those to investigators. That suggests posing or staging the scene for later masturbatory purposes. The tattoo could be an archetype in his head that is his "type." Delphi Lawrence's net worth If Cheyenne did indeed call 911, the tape should be released. She was an actress, known for The Man Who Could Cheat Death (1959), The Man Who Finally Died (1959) and The Avengers (1961). Have they consulted with the local oracle? At 70 years old, Delphi Lawrence height not available right now. What evidence could they possibly have that is any different than other murders? This is why I question that persons credibility. Its 65-70 feet off the river deck. A. The killer would have no tie to either girl except that they were the target of his boss. This whole case has been weirdly handled by police for years. that sketch looks a LOT like him. environs. R144, they documentary indicated that many were investigated and interviewed. I think this is the other murder she was talking about. Praying for justice for the victim and families. I think this thread has a link to the helicopter photos. Q. Within the last week Ive looked at new Reddit subs, historic Reddit/Websleuths places, and then gone down old rabbit holes and new ones. Shirley Stewart, Fulham and Hammersmith Coroner's officer, said: "There will No one - especially not someone who the government believes may be in any way involved - should be questioned without legal representation. It could be a stun gun? With video, audio etc, I was sure of this and thought the girl who kept her phone going was so smart. a hair, a skin sample from nails, just SOMETHING. People watch the news and think they are picking up on things, but its false. This case has literally haunted me. @R321-- I honestly didn't see another face tattoo because I was so horrified by that one. Looking at one photo of him outside somewhere with train tracks/trees in the background startled me for some reason. If someone murdered my kid, I would be desperate too. One of them, Jimmy Dale Duvall, is dead now. Don't buy it. I never wanted children and dont even like them but this case really bothers me. He said he met the girl in town, went to a party, walked her home, and then walked home himself, the news account states. But it's his "type," the type he kills. State police say the person behind the account used photos of a male model and "portrayed himself as being extremely wealthy and owning numerous sports cars.". I would have great concerns over that case.. Pretty sure anybody crossing that bridge wouldn't exactly be race-walking across it. Until then, I continue to binge the podcast "Down the Hill". WebShe passed away on April 11, 2002 in Northport, which is located on Long Island in the state of New York, USA. The guy in the video is way older. R203 I saw that too, BUT he isnt the only person who suspects this dude. Oh maybe their dads? Sometimes a hatchet is mentioned as being the murder weapon. Whoever it is in this thread who keep repeating that you can "see" multiple weapons concealed beneath Bridge Guy's clothing is nuts. This page will put a light upon the Delphi Lawrence bio, wiki, age, birthday, family details, affairs, controversies, caste, height, weight, rumors, lesser-known facts, and more. I'm not sure that's true, when the obituaries were published, one girl's date of death was the day after the other girl's, indicating that they must have known one died before midnight and one after, some time apart. She wasn't there, and she doesn't know. liver disease, it has been revealed. "True Crime Jesus" on Youtube has convincing videos about different POIs. We still have the up and down days is the best way to put it, he said. The links won't post here. Indiana State Police previously said that autopsies were carried out on As far as I've heard. I would never have believed then that it would still be going on 4 years later. It took me forever to find that when I was looking for it yesterday r302, which is why I didn't link to the post that showed the photo from 2016 where he already had a tattoo, it would take me an hour to figure out which link in my history it was. And hes also not lithe and skinny like a teen or young adult. One of the cellphone pictures from the Delphi murders depicts the suspect walking down the railroad bridge toward Abby Williams and Libby German. Who would remember that years later to the day? The True Crime Garage podcast just dropped a 3 part episode all focused on one person of Interest. Enough"? R252 no, there is more audio but law enforcement doesnt think releasing it will help. She may have been in costume and said down the hill. The process is always working, comparing tips received about the Delphi murders with hundreds of other cases and tips. Not sure this guy would have tried to grab a couple of young boys, but who knows? I hope they arrest him, such senseless loss of life. The bodies were found on someone's property, weren't they? So, how much is Delphi Lawrence worth at the age of 70 years old? She had gone to see him on March 6, 1971, hoping he would help smooth over her parents anger at her over a youthful transgression going to a party instead of staying with her brothers at a movie. An absurd amount of commercials and no new info. What a sick motherfucker this one is. Delphi Lawrence died on April 11, 2002 at the age of 70 years. One girl in particular took the brunt of the attack. This. Like, we're doing this cool thing tomorrow afternoon. So their method of hardly releasing any info to make the killer be caught by slipping up (or whatever) obviously didnt work. This is one of those cases that was fucked up from the beginning due to the total incompetence of local law enforcement. What happened to the girls doesn't have to have been "freaky" to upset people, just finding them partly clothed or nude and dead, possibly posed, would be bad enough. It will enhance any encyclopedic page you visit with the magic of the WIKI 2 technology. This case got under my skin. Libby was posting to Snapchat, so they had a good signal. Delphi Lawrence (Delphi Cajetana Holzman) was born on 23 March, 1932 in Hampstead, London, England, UK, is an Actress. As described in the news stories about his trial by the late Daily Local reporter and editor Shirley McCauley, the case against Garnett was largely circumstantial. They released one of the only pictures from the Delphi murders in July of 2017, a full five months after the fact. A. You have to wonder if amateur cyber sleuths are more of a hindrance than a help. As more Delphi murders updates come in, all it takes is one phone call, according to State Police Superintendent Doug Carter. Police documents seen by The Sun, which are heavily redacted, do not make any mention of the Delphi case but do link him to the anthony_shots social media account. You think they have that technology/ability, R278. tragic. Are there regrets about not securing the Morning Heights Cemetery as a possible part of the crime scene (i.e. Do you recognize the mannerisms as being someone that you might know?. If they have someone who is 90% a good candidate for killer, I just have him "suicide.". Because of social media, and the onslaught of armchair detectives, pictures and information of people who may look like the man in the photo circulated, causing death threats and harassment. And no new info fruitless leads he remains hopeful there will soon come a and. 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