I should estimate that in my experience most troubles and most possibilities for improvement add up to the proportions something like this: 94% belongs to the system (responsibility of management), 6% special. Page 315 of Out of the Crisis by Dr. W. Edwards Deming. And we dont share your email with anyone. [3], It was also claimed by the Institute of Police Forensic Evidence and Criminology, based in Switzerland, that the flight data recorders may have been switched and were not the original ones in the airplane. And how is it possible that the flight deck crew did not look into the obstacles around the airport with flying this low??? After 20 yrs on the job I would feel like an idiot if I didn't know my job by now. It's been implied by jealous coworkers I'm cocky. As for pilots at the start of their career they work for peanuts $20,000 by the time they get up to $100k they been living like poppers long enough and I want a confident pilot not some mousy week person that buckles under pressure. as a pilot my self the rules are for made for a reason they are not to be broken by a pilot for his own or anyone's purpose. I'd give the pilot 30-40% responsibility for the crash. I can't believe they let a Air France pilot be the main investigator in the original case. no! There is a CA that I knew that turned his T-Tail aircraft into the wing of another aircraft and he remained with the same company but ended up as a ground instructor for situational awareness classes. Airbus had too much to lose as far as money invested developing the plane. I find it ironic that so many people blame the captain and no mention of Air France who planned the entire thing! Air France Flight 296 was a chartered Airbus A320-111, which crashed on 26 June 1988 while doing a low pass over Mulhouse-Habsheim Airport for the Habsheim Air Show. Totaly miracle. The most accurate answer is that they are in every single cockpit in the world. I think this is a great thread, I also wonder what happens to pilots after landing incidents etc, like TK incident at KTM what happens to pilots after such incidents? The Airbus A320 couldnt handle it. Trending. After takeoff, eight minutes away, the Aerodrome came into view. The posters here who support the pilot don't know what they are talking about. Business & Commercial Aviation BUSINESS & COMMERCIAL AVIATION CHALLENGING AIRPORTS LEARNING FROM TEST PILOTS Three seconds later, the undercarriage is extended. You sound very biased towards the pilot.No wonder you completely missed the point that the Flight Data Recorder's data was tampered with, with the crucial seconds intentionally cut off from the magnetic tape that would confirm the plane's delay in response to his increase in thrust in his attempt to lift the plane over the treetops. geo's documentary. [1] A training captain since 1979, Asseline was appointed to head the company's A320 training subdivision at the end of 1987. The pilot and copilot were charged and convicted of three counts of involuntary manslaughter in the French criminal courts. He exposed multiple anomalies, not to say lies, in the experts' evidence and in the data of the crash all of which pointed to a very high level, state inspired plot to whitewash the aircraft in the crash and confirmed what the pilot had been saying all along. He joined the pilot's defense team. Asseline, who had been a senior pilot with Air France for eight years, maintained the pilots were unfairly blamed, and said the plane had failed to respond quickly to attempts to raise it. The point is that again instead of having the safety of his passengers as his first concern it was to perform the flyby. Accident, incident and crash related photos, Air to Air Aside from the strong evidence that Air France, Airbus and the nation itself may well have had a hand in falsifying data related to the crash, there are several very important points to take away in this very sad and tragic story. It certainly gives the impression of bias, even if there was none. There's every reason to suspect Airbus is correct, that many crashes have been prevented. shameful arrogance! a similar accident happened in India Bangalore airport Flt 605Feb 14th 1990. the aircraft took 8seconds to respond. Aircraft flying government officials, Helicopters Everyone thought it was a no-brainer for the A320 to wow this crowd. [2] The flyover had been approved by Air France's Air Operations Directorate and Flight Safety Department, and air traffic control and Basel tower had been informed. passenger, journalist, Airbus A320 family, aircraft pilot, airplane | 34K views, 176 likes, 1 loves, 48 comments, 47 shares, Facebook Watch Videos from. 12:45:35 - nose-up attitude is now 15 and speed is 122 knots. Some seconds later the aircraft touched the tops of the trees behind the runway and crashed into a forest. Privacy Policy. I agree the pilot was culpable. However, while the pilots were trained in metric, this particular plane was in Imperial units. Captain Asseline, and four other Air France employees are convicted of involuntary manslaughter. Most of the public believes Airbus' controls systems were the root cause of this crash, or at least a major part of it. The pilot called out to the co-pilot for emergency power. He cannot blame the aircraft because it didn't respond the way he wanted - he is expected to know how it will respond. It is BASIC knowledge!!! He always could have done a couple fly overs and looped back. It was piloted by a premier captain of Air France, Captain Michel Asseline, with over10,000 air hours, and led the training division of Air France for qualifying pilots on the Airbus 320. He was a highly distinguished pilot with 10,463 flight hours. The flight would take 130 passengers and 6 crew aloft. This more than anything caused the crash. What is crucial is to understand the threats that can lead to errors, look at how those threats can be mitigated, and have procedures in place that allow errors to be caught and resolved before they become a safety event. The flight would take 130 passengers and 6 crew aloft. Today, the captain, Michel Asseline has lost his French pilot license for 8 years. After the rush of people had left and the interior was fast becoming toxic, she stood at the front door and called back into the cabin. He then tried to open the left-side forward door, which was blocked by trees. [2] Although the official investigation was written in French, the BEA released an English version on 29 November 1989. IMDbPro. Wouldnt a 200-foot overflight be nearly as spectacular? If you change the pilots cap for a lab coat, arent you Captain Michel Asseline, too? and our I'm just a hard worker who made it a point to learn my job inside and out - why? Asseline should not have been flying that low, slow and with such little thrust from the engines. I just watched "Mayday" which dealt with the crash of Flight 296. The overflight of the airfield at the Aerodrome was to take place at alpha-max, the lowest speed at which a craft could fly without stalling. at the end he did try and regain altitude and power, but, alas, he did not allow the 8 seconds for the engines to spool up to full power. Nor, then, were his passengers. It's about commercial aviation, and I've tried to include all the relevant facts for you to draw conclusions. It was the third A320 delivered to Air France, the launch customer. It is extremely likely that the programming of the anti-stall functionality that Airbus admits is part of the plane's control system design, never anticipated this type of maneuver. If I did know their names I certainly would not tell you. There is a very good reason for it. You are not a pilot. But its all about me and you. he claims to have done this before in the recording, but does not mention that it was at 20,000 feet with 40% thrust rather than 100 feet with 5% thrust. The low-speed flyover, with landing gear down, was supposed to take place at an altitude of 100 feet (30m); instead, the plane performed the flyover at 30ft (9m), skimmed the treetops of the forest at the end of the runway (which had not been shown on the airport map given to the pilots) and crashed. Every type from fighters to helicopters from air forces around the globe, Classic Airliners Now he was not planning on landing so these were of no interest to him.So then what safety reason would he have to go around? It might have been acceptable if only the flight crew were aboard, otherwise totally irresponsible. Asseline did not find the aerodrome in . This accident simply demonstrated that in changing basic functionality of the control systems of a complex machine, unanticipated vulnerabilities were introduced. The pilot called out to the co-pilot for emergency power. It would not open, which was fortunate as there was by that time a fire on the left wing. *Defects come in all shades. The computer didnt know he meant just to pop up a few hundred feet. The combustion chambers clogged and the engines failed. Not unless their was prior approval by the proper authorities that made the rules that allowed for him to break it. Help Center Contributor Zone Polls. 12:44:45 - 'Flaps 3' is selected as the aircraft descends through 500 feet (150m) at an airspeed of 177 knots. I don't agree at court are idiots. Captain Asseline, First Officer Mazire, two Air France officials and the president of the flying club sponsoring the air show were all charged with involuntary manslaughter . If we try to eliminate error altogether, we're kidding ourselves. Some seconds later the aircraft touched the tops of the trees behind the runway and crashed into a forest. 2) he was slotted to fly over paved long runway and switched to short grass field where all the spectators were. The captain would slow the aircraft to its minimum flying speed with maximum angle of attack, disable the "alpha floor" (the function that would otherwise automatically increase engine thrust when the angle of attack reached 15) and rely on the first officer to adjust the engine thrust manually to maintain 100 feet. Today, they would perform a flyover at the Habsheim Air Show at the Habsheim Aerodrome and go on to a sightseeing tour of Mont Blanc. He exposed multiple anomalies, not to say lies, in the experts evidence and in the data of the crash all of which pointed to a very high level, state inspired plot to whitewash the aircraft in the crash and confirmed what the pilot had been saying all along. He joined the pilots defense team. Then, as she was helping another passenger whose clothes were on fire, she was carried forward by the surge of people rushing to escape. the plane was stalled? I'm on the pilot's side here. This particular flight was the A320's first passenger flight (most of those on board were journalists and raffle winners). He cannot blame the Aircraft for not reacting as he wanted to when it was extremly low and right above stall speed. Both pilots Captain Asseline and First Officer Mazire survived. Captain Michel Asseline served a year in prison. If he and his crew, knowing the dangers that are inherrent in a low speed, low level flyover, want to, that is thier profesional decision. Edit. The flight plan originally filed did not include the flyover of the Habsheim Air Show, which was added on the morning of the flight. A pilot in charge has the ability to abort, and having realized that he was given bad information, he should have.-- Asseline had to override a safety to perform the maneuver planned for the airshow.-- Asseline claims that he thought the trees were bushes. There is evidence for this: [2] Additionally, the captain was expecting from the flight plan to do the pass over runway 02 (3,281 feet (1,000m) long, paved) and was preparing for that alignment. Another was a girl in seat 8C, who was unable to remove her seatbelt (her older brother had removed his own seatbelt but was carried away by the rush of people before he could help his sister). Most of the posters here are missing the relevant point. -- the black box indicates (as does the video) the plane was clearly too low and too slow for the maneuver. As usual, I believe the truth is somewhere in the middle. A passenger tried to open the left-side overwing exit. I have no doubt the pilot was to blame, and the conspiracy theorists (tampering with a black box?) A flight attendant standing in the centre of the cabin at seat 12D was pushed into the aisle by a severely burnt passenger from 12F. The pilot pulled up on the yoke to ease the plane up over the hundred-foot-tall woods at the end of the runway.

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